User talk:Rayous

Welcome
Feel free to leave a message on my talk page.--Knightrez

Changes
Checkout the latest changes:

1) New background

2) New skincolour

3) The Wiki now always has a width of 1024 (because 1024x768 is, apparently, still the most used resolution)

what do you think of the changes? (Don't mind the headers of the tables, still gotta change them) -- Zantam03 16:35, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Major articles
I know you wanna add loads of articles and reach 150 a.s.a.p. but, remember: quality over quantity anytime!! I'd rather have 1 article of Sun Quan that's 100% correct and absolutely nothing left out then 10 short biographies and half empty articles of him and his family.

That's the goal of this Wiki: visitors can find EVERYTHING. Not short articles that contain only info that all other websites already have. Please remember that. We don't have to rush things. This Wiki won't fail if we work slowly, as long as we keep working on it, slow or fast, it will succeed. -- Zantam03 11:10, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Automobile Wiki
Have you stopped working on it? No activity in 4 days now.. -- Zantam03 13:52, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

RE:
JavaScript is a programmibg language for the web - it is easily sandboxed, meaning that it can only do stuff with web pages. JavaScript is needed to make many sites work. Wikia did some major upgrades, and they'll need JavaScript.

Google (or your preferred search) "enable JavaScript" --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 09:46, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about it, but after reading a bit of the articles, it seems really interesting. I'm not an expert on the subject - so I'll help you all as support. --Zapwire (talk/blog/edits) 12:14, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok :-) --Knightrez 13:06, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

English
Watch your English... It's " A F ield Marshal" and "A N  A ncestor" -- Zantam03 11:18, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Crap!! :-( those are stupid careliss mistakes --Knightrez 11:21, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Romance of the Three Kingdoms
I thought this was your expertise, why don't you try writing some articles in the fiction section? Hu Lao gate is not finished but it's the most popular article about a fictional event. -- Zantam03 15:13, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

That's right. I have the Romance of the Three Kingdoms novel. So i'll try completing some of it. --Knightrez 15:14, March 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * You have it? Well that's great! Then you can look up everything make it a flawless page. Hulao Gate is popular so if you make it a nice big article I'm sure a lot of people will read it. -- Zantam03 15:16, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. (I don't have SGZ novel) --Knightrez 15:18, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. but I have the SGYY completly in chinese though. Im fluent in chinese and english. --Knightrez 15:20, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Spotlight Request
Hi. The Three Kingdoms Wiki looks good -- I love the background! However it does not currently meet the spotlight criteria. You need to have 200 non-stub content articles. Also the Community Corner of My Home should be customized. Also I need the admin to either request the spotlight or have given you approval for it. Please ask again when you can meet all the spotlight criteria. -- Wendy (talk ) 01:25, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Templates
Do not edit them. They are part of the layout of the website and that's my territory. If you have suggestions leave them here or here. -- Zantam03 09:35, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Got it --Knightrez 09:41, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

I just...
I just deleted your article about Ding Yuan. I don't really understand why you insist on making historical biographies and what I understand even less is why you keep using Wikipedia as your source. I've said it before and it's also mentioned in the rules, that I'm not a fan of Wikipedia because it mixes up fact & fiction. You've said you don't know much about TK history, than why do you use an error filled site like Wikipedia as your source, when you can't even point out the errors in the articles?

Keep these rules in mind:


 * Don't use Wikipedia as your source, especially not when you can't distinguish fact & fiction.


 * If you're not sure if something is fact or fiction; DON'T WRITE IT DOWN. Or ask?


 * ALWAYS include infoboxes. Don't wait and hope someone else will do this for you.

-- Zantam03 09:59, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

check...
check out Quantcast. It has finally been updated again. I haven't advertised this Wiki anywhere since March 7, but it's doing good and steady! -- Zantam03 12:06, March 24, 2010 (UTC)

Note
When using the old infobox, first use Chinese before Pinyin, because Pinyin is how to pronounce the Chinese. -- Zantam03 15:51, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Okay like, Style name (1) Chinese (2) then Pinyin (3) is that right? --Knightrez 15:54, March 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * yep -- Zantam03 19:55, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ten Attendants
I'm thinking about changing the name of this battle article, because now it's simply 'The Ten Regular Attendants'. I have thought of several names; firstly I wanna get rid of the 'Ten' (check Twelve Regular Palace Attendants).

ideas:


 * Battle against the Regular Attendants


 * Battle of Luoyang (meh)


 * Campaign against the Regular Attendants


 * Struggle against the Imperial Eunuchs.


 * He Jin vs. The Regular Attendants

Regular Attendants can be replaced with Palace Attendants, or Eunuchs, or whatever. I favour Struggle against the Imperial Eunuchs. Wikipedia and others don't really have a name for this battle, so if we make one now and get this Wiki popular, it might become an 'official' name of this battle :P lol, small chance though..

-- Zantam03 14:30, March 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * nvm, renamed it to Struggle against The Regular Attendants. -- Zantam03 20:36, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

This is my personal opion about this new name. Don't like it. but your choice. --Knightrez 07:48, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * What do you have in mind then? -- `Zantam03 11:14, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I don't wan't to cause trouble becuase youve moved the pages to much. I like Battle against the Regular Attendants more sounds cool. --Knightrez 13:47, April 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * But it wasn't a battle. It was all behind the scenes (except for the last two days of eunuch slaying). -- Zantam03 14:56, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Translation
You said you're fluent in English and Chinese... can you translate this?

http://www.xysa.net/a200/h350/03houhanshu/t-index.htm

apparently, on HHs 78/68, 2534 all names of the Twelve Regular Palace Attendants are listed. Can you find them? There somewhere in that link. Would be awesome of you could. No other (english) site has their names. Nobody even has ten. -- Zantam03 10:41, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

I think this is the biography of Emperor Ling, so perhaps the names can be found here (since Ling enfeoffed all twelve of em so their names could be mentioned) -- Zantam03 10:46, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Four names are mentioned here, two are new:

占曰：「熒惑在太微為亂臣. 」是時，中常侍趙忠、張讓、郭勝、孫璋等，並為奸亂. 彗星入太微，天下易主.

Zhao Zhong, Zhang Rang and others are Sun Zhang and "Kwok Shing"??? Weird name, but that's how Google translates it. How do you translate it? -- Zantam03 11:45, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.xysa.net/a200/h350/03houhanshu/t-108.htm check that, it's 78/68.

"鄭眾　蔡倫　孫程　曹騰　單超　侯覽　曹節　呂強　張讓"

The names I found are Zheng Zhong Cai Lun Sun Cheng Teng-Shan Chao, Hou Cao Cao Jie Lu Qiang Zhang (crappy google translation), I think the names should be Lü Qiang, Zhang Rang, Cao Jie, Zheng Zhong, Cai Lun, Sun Cheng, but the others I'm not too sure about. What's your take on this? --

Interesting... one of them is Cao Teng (曹騰), Cao Cao's father. -- Zantam03 12:48, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, the ones mentioned above are incorrect I think, because I just found these:

是時，讓、忠及夏惲、郭勝、孫璋、畢嵐、栗嵩、段珪、高望、張恭、韓悝、宋典十二人，皆為中常侍，封侯貴寵，父兄子弟布列州郡，所在貪賤，為人蠹害. 黃巾既作，盜賊糜沸，郎中中山張鈞上書曰：「竊惟張角所以能興兵作亂，萬人所以樂附之者，其源皆由十常侍多放父兄、子弟、婚親、賓客典據州郡，辜榷財利，侵掠百姓，百姓之冤無所告訴，故謀議不軌，聚為盜賊. 宜斬十常侍，縣頭南郊，以謝百姓，又遣使者佈告天下，可不須師旅，而大寇自消. 」天子以鈞章示讓等，皆免冠徒跣頓首，乞自致洛陽詔獄，並出家財以助軍費. 有詔皆冠履視事如故. 帝怒鈞曰：「此真狂子也. 十常侍固當有一人善者不？」鈞複重上，猶如前章，輒寢不報. 詔使廷尉、侍御史考為張角道者，禦史承讓等旨，遂誣奏鈞學黃巾道，收掠死獄中. 而讓等實多與張角交通. 後中常侍封諝、徐奉事獨發覺坐誅，帝因怒詰讓等曰：「汝曹常言黨人欲為不軌，皆令禁錮，或有伏誅. 今党人更為國用，汝曹反與張角通，為可斬未？」皆叩頭雲：「故中常侍王甫、侯覽所為. 」帝乃止.

When I use Google and Babelfish I get these names:

Song Dian, Xia Yun, Bi Lan, Li Song, Duan Gui, Sun Zhang. Can you translate the rest? -- Zantam03 18:00, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Historical Biographies
I'm sorry to say this, but your historical bios aren't very good. Here's why:

- In the rules it has been stated since a couple of weeks that, on historical bios (hb), sources must ALWAYS be listed. They're never present on your articles though. I want them because then people can see we got info from reliable sources.

- Your hb's contain many errors. Some are because you don't know much about the subject, others are a bit sloppy errors (such as saying you don't know when Mu Shun died, when the bio says he died during thr Battle of Hulao Pass)

- Your latest two hb's about Sha Moke and Hu Zhen are very short. Too short. And contain errors. For example; you say Hu Zhen died in 190 A.D., but you also say he fought Sun Jian in 191 A.D.... Sha Moke only has two or three lines. To me, this looks like you don't know much about Hu Zhen and Sha Moke, then why make an article about it?

We can almost get a spotlight place, so I want things sorted out. -- Zantam03 10:49, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay spotlights good. On the other hand, The Hu Zhen article I'll change, but the Sha Moke article is too short? Your latest articles like Du Yuan and Yan Zheng contain a few lines just like Sha Moke. What's wrong with it. Also the sources stuff. You get this info from HHS and RTKXI I don't know these. I get this information from my books and my own knowledge. --Knightrez 10:57, April 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Du Yuan and Yan Zheng are fictional bio's. They're just there to show they're fictional, not really to share info on them, at least, not a full bio or anything. Sha Moke, on the other hand, is a historical warrior, so it should not be a summarizing bio, but instead, as complete as possible. This is also stated in the rules. RTKXI = Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI, a game by Koei, it contains fictional bio's and can be downloaded anywhere. HHS = Book of the Later Han. there is a link to the Chinese version on its article. Your book is Romance right? And your own knowledge is? Based on Romance? -- Zantam03 11:04, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I go to Kongming net for info. Wikipedia (rarely). My knowledge I read from is from Kongming. Im new to sources. --Knightrez 11:12, April 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, but Kongming only has a SGYY bio on Sha Moke and no bio on Hu Zhen. -- Zantam03 11:16, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Im thinking of getting SGZ, but the books ive bought the title says Sanguozhi when i go to the Cao Cao bio section. It has the Seven star precious sword included! --Knightrez 11:20, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Just the sword? or Cao Cao presenting it to Dong Zhuo? -- Zantam03 11:21, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

It says Cao Cao gets the sword from Wang Yun he attempts to assassinate Dong Zhuo, but fails and escapes. Later is arrested by Chen Gong. (All fiction right?) --Knightrez 11:24, April 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yep - Zantam03 11:40, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Spotlight
I think I'm gonna reward top contributors with their own spotlight. You don't have much competition, but you're the number 2 contributor, so you can make your own Spotlight Template. Use this one, or this one, or this one as your example please. Make your own SL Temp here

Basically it's just a collection of your favourite articles + a pic. Watch out with the pic though, it must be same size as the other ones.