Thread:1mmorta1Zero/@comment-1463998-20171118115036/@comment-26245666-20171125001414

I'm still trying to figure out the best way to make references, so if you have some prefered format, I'll use that. As for the translations, I'm now thinking a good place to put a link to them might be on the SGZ pages.

My process is: First I translate the SGZ myself to get an understanding of the text, then I compare with Kongming (or whatever) translation to see if how I interpreted the text is okay. If they come out about the same, then I can trust the Kongming translation a little more. I then compare that with Rafe's TEP to make sure it's right. If they are any inconsistencies I will put Rafe's work the most weight.

Thing is, I prefer to make reference to the SGZ instead of TEP. Otherwise I feel like I'm just paraphrasing what Rafe put. I don't really like referencing Rafe who then references the SGZs.

I know the Kongming translations aren't necessarily 100% accurate. In Xiahou Yuan's SGZ translation theres a line where it says 'he abandoned his son and niece', but it should be 'he abandoned his son to save his niece.' Which is why I try to translate the text myself first to see if it makes sense.

But even Rafe is 100% accurate. I just found a mistake in 208 A.D. about Ma Teng. Rafe says Ma Teng was fighting with Han Sui and then Cao Cao made peace between them before convincing Ma Teng to come to court. But that event happened in 196 A.D. But the situation in 208 A.D. was quite similar and he's muddled them up a little. And I found another minor mistake in 213 A.D. about Ruxu fortress, where Rafe says Lu Meng heard Cao Cao was invading, but it was actually Sun Quan who heard it. (That error doesn't seem like much in this context but it's actually quite important; without it it would seem like Rafe had misinterpreted the events at Ruxu in TEP).